This is my new duds. Since the picture I saw the Schleese lady again and she said I had a little bit of withers now! She actually had to narrow it a bit. Because of my growth spurt I also got an oversized browband and a 6" bit. I'm now sporting a Dee ring. I really like it. That pad you see is a rubber one because my saddle wouldn't stay put at first. I don't have to wear it anymore.